Curse

Miss Filth · Nov 27, 2007, 06:59 PM // 18:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Kotte

The foes have a apx AP of 160 vs elemental dmg...

Yes... and whats the original source of dmg in the build in this thread??? >.>

tekDragon · Nov 27, 2007, 07:18 PM // 19:18

Not sure you can make that shadow form build work unless you can find a way to keep shadow form build up continually. Granted that sliver armor is the original source of damage for the Ele build, but it only hits for 7s, so it takes either a huge number of vaettir rounded up to kill one reasonably quick. Crystal wave and Tenai's are not elemental damage and help quite a bit brining down the vaettir's hp.

ragnagard · Nov 27, 2007, 07:47 PM // 19:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by tekDragon

Not sure you can make that shadow form build work unless you can find a way to keep shadow form build up continually. Granted that sliver armor is the original source of damage for the Ele build, but it only hits for 7s, so it takes either a huge number of vaettir rounded up to kill one reasonably quick. Crystal wave and Tenai's are not elemental damage and help quite a bit brining down the vaettir's hp.

Nah, i think you'r wrong or i didnt explain that too well.

Sliver armor was choosed by mistake, as i didnt know anything about the farm and also the 160 armor vs elem damage. Now in my new tests i dont use it... but they are only tests right now. Main source of damage is Crystal wave + Tenai + Archane Echo (duplicating one of those). Sliver armor was just... for doing something in the 20 sec recharge time hehehe.

And your'r right in the last affirmation, both skills arent elemental damage, they just "damage". The only skill that also meets this requirement is obsidian flame but... i think it wonk work here (or could?).

To be continued....

tekDragon · Nov 27, 2007, 08:28 PM // 20:28

I personally still use sliver armor to do the farm. I use Crystal and tenai's to get the vaettir low on hp and then trigger armor to kill as many of them as possible one at a time. From what I can tell you get better drops that way, though I guess it's a bit slower.

majiger · Nov 27, 2007, 09:24 PM // 21:24

Anyone try bunny area with this?

ragnagard · Nov 27, 2007, 11:24 PM // 23:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by majiger

Anyone try bunny area with this?

Yeah i did. You cant hehehehehe. It isnt a fast way to get caster tomes (yeeeeah, i thought that too :P).

Problem is that the other vaettir got Illusionary weapon, that traspases Obsidian flesh as it not an spell and... you die in... just seconds ^^.

I hope it worked... but not...

Edit: minor typo's hehe

ThisIsNi · Nov 27, 2007, 11:34 PM // 23:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by ragnagard

I cannot try as I got my laptop frozen whenever i use Sympa or Ancestor Visage.Too much -3 on screen for a integrated graphic card :P.

Maybe you could use the Famine skill to kill'em all without taking care of damage dealt.

I cannot try cause of my hardware capabilities rofl

*plans HA strategy*

geminisaga · Nov 28, 2007, 05:16 AM // 05:16

why so many vaitir

geminisaga · Nov 28, 2007, 05:46 AM // 05:46

also how u got blessing w/o fighting

ragnagard · Nov 28, 2007, 09:15 AM // 09:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThisIsNi

*plans HA strategy*

I wanna explain again that i am not an english speaker lol, so i may not understand your abbrevs hehehe. Ya mean a Hardware updating plan? In that case, no RL cash, no update hehehe.

Quote:

Originally Posted by geminisaga

why so many vaitir?

Errr mmm macro farming? Vaettir-chicken farming? Dont you think that they look like & act like mad chickens when you gonna feed 'em? I dunno, if you are lazy you could do that in groups of 1-3 vaettir but... ¿it is still so fun? Really answer is that they are a large mob, they dont flee from you when you use skills like sliver armor and they have very low AI in HM (yes, worse AI than other foes)

Quote:

Originally Posted by geminisaga

also how u got blessing w/o fighting?

I that was.... kinda obvious but.... i just went there with hench and kick his a$$ in another and previous run. No matter if you do that in NM and after that you farm in HM, blessing will be given without any problem hehe.

If you do a dual with 2 ele/me, the norn can be taken down with (a big) effort from your side, cause the healing signet it has (even with the aura + mantra + damage reduction the norn punched my head like a pumpkin hehehe)

Miss Filth · Nov 28, 2007, 09:53 AM // 09:53

Something i would like answering: Do more glacial stones drop in HM than in NM?

Arkantos · Nov 28, 2007, 09:59 AM // 09:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miss Filth

Something i would like answering: Do more glacial stones drop in HM than in NM?

Doubt it, although there are alot more vaettirs in HM than in NM.

ragnagard · Nov 28, 2007, 10:12 AM // 10:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miss Filth

Something i would like answering: Do more glacial stones drop in HM than in NM?

As Arkantos said... drop % may be the same but, you got a lot more vaettir in HM. I think that there are near 20 vaettir in NM and i have a HM counter of 60 killed vaettir, so ... its a maths question

. More Vaettir, more probably drop (well maybe Arenanet drop scalling, or drop rules skip statistics laws hehehe)

I farmed here with a Melandru Resilence Ranger in the past (NM) and i didnt get golden items, just white crap and glacial stones.

the Puppeteer · Nov 28, 2007, 10:19 AM // 10:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miss Filth

Something i would like answering: Do more glacial stones drop in HM than in NM?

Beside that there are 60 vaettir in HM you can aslo get quite nice gold drops.
Like the both types of highlander blades, platinum broadswords, serpent axes...

Quote:

Originally Posted by ragnagard

Nah, i think you'r wrong or i didnt explain that too well.

Sliver armor was choosed by mistake, as i didnt know anything about the farm and also the 160 armor vs elem damage. Now in my new tests i dont use it... but they are only tests right now. Main source of damage is Crystal wave + Tenai + Archane Echo (duplicating one of those). Sliver armor was just... for doing something in the 20 sec recharge time hehehe.

And your'r right in the last affirmation, both skills arent elemental damage, they just "damage". The only skill that also meets this requirement is obsidian flame but... i think it wonk work here (or could?).

To be continued....

think that sliver should be left there.
If foes are dropping dead one by one = more drops?
then when all drop together.

and just use the waves to lower their hp enaugh.
on the last 3-4 vaettir standing just use a wave on em - can't be bothered to take em 1 by 1

ragnagard · Nov 28, 2007, 10:26 AM // 10:26

Yup!, and lockpicks, black dyes (me not, but guildies, get em), mesmer tomes, ....

sometimes i forget that I am collecting glacial stones too!

Yeah, i got platinum broadsword too, as seen in the video hehehe, but i got my r9 just farming the wolfs that protect johon with my monk not here

tekDragon · Nov 28, 2007, 04:19 PM // 16:19

there are always 60 vaettir in hard mode and 15 in normal mode. Three pairs of gauntlets and a couple stones sold off later, I would have to say that HM is far far more worth it even if I did get some gold drops in NM.

Mr.Kotte · Nov 28, 2007, 07:13 PM // 19:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miss Filth

Yes... and whats the original source of dmg in the build in this thread??? >.>

Look at the quote that I was talking about.

http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:A/...l_Sword_Farmer

MercenaryKnight · Nov 29, 2007, 12:55 AM // 00:55

What town is it that you leave out of to do the farm? Longeyes? I can't seem to figure out where exactly it starts out at/ what zones you go through.

Arkantos · Nov 29, 2007, 12:59 AM // 00:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by MercenaryKnight

What town is it that you leave out of to do the farm? Longeyes? I can't seem to figure out where exactly it starts out at/ what zones you go through.

Yeah you start at Longeye's. If you leave from Sifhalla you'll run into at least 2 groups and I'm not sure you'd be able to kill them.

MercenaryKnight · Nov 29, 2007, 01:26 AM // 01:26

Also, instead of arcane echo wouldn't it be better to use air of superiority? Since you could get random benefits whenever you kill them? Or even the vanguard ward where it halves recharge sometimes?